Reliability of the HIV DNA PCR

by moderator on August 14, 2010

I have been told that the PCR test is not supposed to be used for diagnostic purposes. I had a PCR test done for HIV a month after I had sex with someone who turned out to be a different person than I thought he was. The PCR test said “not detected”, but if it isn’t a diagnostic test, what good is it? Do I have to start over now?

A “not detected” HIV-1 DNA PCR at one month after exposure is an extremely reliable result, and there doesn’t seem to be any compelling reason for you to retest. The actual diagnosis of HIV infection is currently given on the basis of a positive ELISA antibody test which has been confirmed by a positive Western Blot test. Positive or reactive results on an antibody test are actually diagnostic because they confirm the presence of antibodies and therefore infer the presence of the virus itself. The PCR is actually diagnostic as well, but at the present time it has not yet been given this status by the CDC. The most likely reason that the PCR is not considered to be diagnostic at the present time is that it is so sensitive that there is still a possibility of a false “detected” result, with no immediate way to confirm its veracity. False positive ELISA results are possible as well, but the Western Blot is there to weed those out immediately. It should be noted that false “detected” results on the PCR have become fewer and fewer in recent years and are now quite rare.

Back to your original question, remember that a diagnosis requires that some disease or condition be present. As an example, one is “diagnosed “ as having diabetes, but is not “diagnosed” as not having diabetes. In my example, determining that someone does not have diabetes “rules out” diabetes. It does not actually “diagnose” that person as not having diabetes. This might seem like a picky detail, but it is actually critical to the understanding of the problem posed by your question. You might not want to diagnose HIV with a PCR, but there is no better or faster way to rule it out, and ruling it out is really what we want to do.

Take, for example, a chest x-ray done because there is a family history of lung cancer. We know that many chest x-rays show some dark spots, but only a few of these turn out to be cancer. We would not begin radiation and chemotherapy upon discovery of one of those dark spots without doing a biopsy and making a diagnosis of lung cancer first. This doesn’t make the x-ray a problem, just a very sensitive type of test. Likewise, we would not begin HIV treatment without doing an ELISA/Western Blot confirmation and giving a diagnosis of HIV. This doesn’t make the PCR a problem, just a very sensitive type of test. If you are worried about lung cancer, a negative x-ray will tell you that most likely you don’t have it, not that you definitely do have it. If you are worried about recent HIV exposure, and you do not want to wait three months for a conclusive result, the HIV DNA PCR can tell you that you were not infected, and that is primarily what you want to know.

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Is the HIV DNA PCR test reliable?

by moderator on February 13, 2010

I had a recent exposure on Jan 6th and I heard the DNA PCR will be able to provide conclusive results on HIV after 28 days.

However, I read contradictory statements on the internet that it is not a reliable method and there are more false positives and even HIV positive people are not caught with this test. Is that so? Please let me know how accurate it will be right after 28 days from the day of exposure.

Answer:

It is true there are many misconceptions regarding this test and other tests for HIV that are different from the traditional HIV antibody test.

Let’s say for the last 20 years, the most common way to save your life during a car accident, and the only device that consumers were familiar with was called a seat belt. More recently developed is a more advanced technology known as an airbag. As you can imagine, it took sometime for this new technology to be accepted and understood, as it has for the DNA PCR. Admittedly, there are many misconceptions about this test, as well as other HIV tests, as well as the subject of HIV and AIDS as a whole, for that matter.

You asked if the HIV DNA PCR has a higher rate of false positives. The misconception regarding false positives stems from the DNA PCR not being offered with an automatic reflex to a confirmatory test. If it was detected, another test had to be performed to confirm the presence of HIV. The same argument could be made about the HIV ELISA, if only the ELISA did not automatically reflex to a confirmatory test called the Western Blot.

The PCR (polymerase chain reaction) is a noble prize winning technology, and it is the best option available when someone is concerned about recent HIV exposure. It is used for health care workers after a needle stick. Originally it was developed to test infants born to HIV positive mothers, because a positive antibody test, in this case, was not a reliable marker of infection.

You also said that you heard that even people that are HIV positive are not caught on this test. There is not much to say about that other than it is simply not true. I am not sure where or why that would be said. The DNA PCR is the absolute most sensitive test for HIV. In terms of measurement capacity, it can detect as little as 10 copies of proviral DNA per milliliter of whole blood. Even the most sensitive HIV RNA PCR test can only detect 40-50 copies per ml.

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Hi there,
I have a question:
I had protected sex. After 65 days from that, I did an HIV EIA test. The result is negative.

My question is: does that mean I am 100% free from HIV? Is an EIA enough? Do I need retest again or am I fine?
Thank you so much

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